Will password-sharing kill streaming? Emmy’s make Brian fear Netflix. All the hot new trailer talk. With special guest Hammond Chamberlain.
CordKillers: Ep. 179 - My First Streaming Device
Recorded: July 17 2017
Guest: Hammond Chamberin
- Streaming TV apps grapple with password sharing
- Millennials have a Netflix account. Gen Z is playing video games.
- A Reuters/Ipsos poll found 21% of 18-24 adults stream shows on borrowed passwords from people who do not live with them. (12% for 18+)
- Wall Street thinking is that if Netflix revenue slows (say from 30% to 10% growth) then Netflix needs to crack down
- An analysis by Parks Associates estimated streaming providers will lose $550 million in 2019 from password sharing.
- Bernadette Aulestia, executive vice president of global distribution for HBO “"For us it’s more important that at that age where they are not financially independent quite yet, they are habituating to using the product to ultimately aspiring to becoming paid customers.”
- Netflix Chief Financial Officer David Wells said at a Goldman Sachs conference last September: "We could crack down on it, but you wouldn't suddenly turn all those folks to paid users.”
How to Watch
- Netflix leads the streaming pack with 18 Emmy nominations
- Netflix received 18 Emmy award nominations in main categories for its shows and actors including Master of None, Stranger Things, House of Cards and The Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt. Amazon got three nominations all for Transparent and Hulu got three for The Handmaid’s Tale.
- These counts represent nominations for the key categories that will be awarded on the 17th. There are many other categories, however, and with those included Netflix managed 91 nominations, Hulu notched 18 and Amazon 16. The leading network was HBO with 110, and its show Westworld tied with Saturday Night Live for the most nominations at 22.
What to Watch
- Hulu is getting every episode of Bob’s Burgers, Futurama, and more
- Hulu is now the exclusive home to Bob’s Burgers and Futurama, The Cleveland Show and American Dad! 20th Century Fox has been slowly pulling shows from Netflix and they have, in many cases, been appearing on Hulu.
- At D23, Lucasfilm showed a "behind the scenes" video for The Last Jedi
- Jodie Whittaker announced as 13th Doctor Who
- Here's our first look at Spielberg's 'Ready Player One' movie
- Entertainment Weekly has a photo from Ready Player One. A trailer is expected at San Diego Comic-Con this weekend. Film arrives March 30th, 2018
- The first season of Insecure will be available on YouTube for one day
- Starting at 6AM ET next Sunday, July 23rd Season 1 of Issa Ray’s “Insecure” will stream for free for 24 hours on YouTube.com/HBO and watch.hbo.com. The second season of Insecure starts at 10:30PM ET on July 23.
- Narcos returns to Netflix September 1st , new teaser out.
- Watch the first trailer for Amazon’s The Tick -- The first six episodes will land on Amazon on August 25th
- New trailer for BladeRunner 2049 which comes out October 6th
- Stranger Things Season 2 arrives on Netflix on October 27
- Disney also showed the trailer for A Wrinkle in Time. The film opens March 9, 2018
What We're Watching
- Brian: War for the Planet of the Apes, Game of Thrones, Firefly 101, and some Last Week Tonight
- Tom: Preacher, War for the Planet of the Apes, Buffy, Wimbledon, Baby Driver, Game of Thrones, Twin Peaks
- Hammond: Spider-Man, American Ripper, Thunderbirds (Hulu), and finishing up Iron Fist. The Keepers
- On the Lookout: The Last Ship
- Netflix’s subscribers are surging as it blows away Wall Street’s expectations
- Netflix announced it added 5.2 million new subscribers this quarter beating its own expectations of 3.2 million. More than 4 million were international subscribers. Netflix said it had earnings of 15 cents per share on revenue of $2.79 billion.
- AT&T's 'next-gen' TV platform rollout will start on DirecTV Now
- DirecTV announced it is unifying its look across both satellite and Internet services. DirecTV Now and companion app users will be the first to access the beta. Among several user interface tweaks, will be the Cloud DVR service which will launch with the beta. Later planned features include live TV pausing, parental controls, and in 2018, download for offline viewing, 4K and HDR support.
- Hulu’s Locke & Key adaptation signs It director Andy Muschietti
- Hulu’s TV adaptation of Locke & Key has hired Andy Muschietti as director. Muschietti also directed It coming this September. Hill wrote the pilot script and Lost and The Strain’s Carlton Cuse is the show runner. Doctor Strange director Scott Derrickson was originally on board but left to work on TNT’s Snowpiercer series.
- Roku hits 15 million monthly users, 7 billion hours streamed in first half of 2017
- Roku announced it has reached 15 million monthly active users as of June 30th., up 43% over last year. Users streamed nearly 7 billion hours of video during the first half of the year, a 61 percent increase over 2016.
- Kevin Hart’s comedy streaming service launches August 3rd
- Kevin Hart’s Laugh Out Loud streaming comedy service launches August 3 on Android and iOS for free. Viewers can pay $3 a month for ad-free access. It includes standup routines, all the Def Comedy Jam seasons as well as several original comedy shows.
- Google Play Movies & TV rolls out support for HDR video on Chromecast Ultra
- Google announced support for HDR video on its Chromecast Ultra devices, coming first to Canada and the US. Sony and Warner Brothers content will be the first HDR sold in the Google Play store.
Dispatches from the Front
We signed for up DirecTV Now to get the free AppleTV and were going to cancel after the 3 months. Then they added HBO for free (for 1 year) which gave my wife and I pause and we kept it. I frequently hear you all lament DirecTV Now for service issues but we use it daily these days and rarely have any issues on phone, computer or AppleTV. Just thought you'd like to know that they aren't having the issues they were at the beginning. Not to defend AT&T but they have done pretty well getting this service stable and working.
It could have been much worse than Babylon 5....if long series are problematic
Doctor Who... ALL of it. From Hartnell thru Capaldi, you'd be on that train for a decade
ST:TNG, DS9 or Voyager, 7 seasons each...
You want more campy?
Quark - space garbage man from the 70's , only advantage is that it didn't last long
Buck Rogers -Gil Gerard in spandex
Salvage One - Andy Griffith - in SPACE!
My suggestion for next time ?
Blakes 7 or Space 1999 either is late 70's british sci fi at it's "best
thanks, enjoy the show!
Hi Tom et al,
I've read your Brief Guide to Cordcutting but don't see what I'm looking for. Can you help?
My mother wants to jettison her cable/phone/internet service ($200/mo) and keep a landline and the internet. The only TV she wants to keep are local news channels, including the local PBS stations.
She doesn't have an external antenna or a digital converter box - but would you suggest getting these as the best solution?
10 stories where Tom hypes PlayStation Vue price rises and charts Amazon Prime's popularity. Number 8 will shock you! With special guest Justin Robert Young.
CordKillers: Ep. 178 - Tom Merritt: Clickbait King
Recorded: July 10 2017
Guest: Justin Robert Young
- Amazon Prime More Popular than cable!
- Research company Morningstar estimates Amazon Prime reaches 79 million US households. S&P Global Market Intelligence recently projected 90 million US households will pay for cable or satellite TV this year.
- It’s SLIGHTLY apples and oranges since Prime isn’t just for TV but it shows that Amazon is on its way to being in as many homes as cable.
- Netflix reported 50.85 mm US subs in Q1)
How to Watch
- PlayStation Vue hikes prices across the US
- Sony has removed its “Slim” packages from regions that didn’t have local live TV available. Those packages did not include broadcast networks and charged $10 less than the normal versioon of the package
- The standard Access package ($40 a month) is the cheapest one in all markets now.
- Customers on the Slim package can keep it for three months after which they must cancel or be upgraded to the $40 plan
-Sony told Dedline: "The transition to standard pricing for all markets was always part of our roadmap since we launched PlayStation Vue nationwide and began rolling out local broadcast affiliates in markets with Slim plans."
What to Watch
- Facebook Greenlights Two New Original Series As Part Of Expanded Push Into Video
- Two more shows have been given the green light for Facebook Live.
- Returning the Favor features Mike Rowe traveling the country looking for people contributing positively to their community. The example given was a motorcycle mechanic who helps vets with PTSD. A second docuseries covers the Ball family, whose sons Lonzo, Liangelo and LaMelo are all up and coming basketball stars out of Chino Hills High School.
- The ‘Beat Shazam’ TV show allows viewers to play along at home
- Beat Shazam which arrived on Fox May 25th, hosted by Jamie Foxx now lets you sync gameplay with your app while you’re watching, even if you’re watching on a DVR or on demand. Anthony Ha at TechCrunch even got it to work with YouTube clips.
- BoJack Horseman returns to Netflix with new episodes on September 8
- HBO’s trailer for The Deuce begs for memes about twin James Francos with terrible mustaches
- A trailer is out for David Simon and George Pelecanos’ The Deuce which tells the story of the rise of the New York porn scene, starring Maggie Gyllenhall and James Franco. The Deuce comes to HBO September 10th.
What We're Watching
- Brian: Preacher, Justified, Spider-Man, Baby Driver, Nobody Speak: Trials of the Free Press
- Tom: Preacher, Justified, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, GLOW
- Justin: Fargo, Doctor Who
- On the Lookout: Castlevania
- Cable TV companies can charge higher prices thanks to new court ruling
- The US Court of appeals upheld a 2015 FCC decision that cable TV companies now face effective nationwide competition from satellite TV and therefore are free of rate regulation. Local regulators were allowed to regulate rates if the local provider had no competition.
- Disney's first 4K Blu-ray will be 'Guardians of the Galaxy 2'
- Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 will be Disney’s first 4K HDR Blu-ray release. A leaked document had the tentative release date as August 22 but this has not yet been confirmed.
- HBO and George R.R. Martin Set To Produce Nnedi Okorafor's Who Fears Death TV Series
- HBO has optioned Nnedi Okorafor’s World Fantasy Award-winning novel Who Fears Death to be a TV series with George R. R. Martin attached as executive producer. The novel is about a woman with magical abilities living in post-apocalyptic Sudan where light-skinned Nuru oppress darker-skinned Okeke people.
- Facebook, Twitter and Snapchat All Want to Stream Soccer’s World Cup
- Bloomberg reports Twitter, Facebook and Snapchat are all negotiating with Fox for rights to stream highlights packages from the World Cup next year.
- HBO and Cinemax come to Hulu, but you’ll need the new app to watch
- HBO and Cinemax are now available as add-ons to Hulu for $15 and $10 a month respectively. Subscribers get live east and west coast feeds as well as on demand access, and be able to log in to HBO Now as well. You will need the new Hulu app which can access Hulu TV in order to get HBO and Cinemax, and that app is only on Apple TV Xbox One Android and iOS so far.
- QVC and HSN are merging in a deal worth $2.1 billion. QVC already owned a 38% stake in HSN.
Dispatches from the Front
I feel like I just hit the "Whammy" on this Cordkillers game of Press Your Luck...
Thanks in large part to your show, my wife and I dumped cable and picked up Playstation Vue when it launched. Aside from the Roku UI, we have been very happy with Vue. The Core Slim package provides the perfect mix of Scripps/Turner/Sports networks we want. I couldn't replicate the ~7 channels we watch on any other providers for the cost. Most importantly, I had ability to watch every English Premier League match and the Extra Time Goal Zone when multiple games were happening at the same time. (Goal Zone was the EPL equivalent of the Red Zone Channel for the NFL.) Now, I feel like my cost savings was smashed. My Vue package is going to increase by $10/month and $50 paywall for Premier League Pass, which I had access to last season for no additional cost. It hurts more when it's taken away. I also have Netflix, Prime and will be purchasing HBO Now for the season Game of Thrones. It's possible I'm just a unique case, but it seems to be getting cable-level expensive again for the content I want.
I'm not sure there is any way to improve my situation with the current offerings, but any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Will these cost increases and paywalls lead to a next "level" of cord cutting/shaving options?
(Feel free to edit for length and/or grammar if you want to use my message on the show. I can provide additional clarity if you'd like.)
Thank you for all you do.
As someone who has dabbled and at times been really into quality scene releases over the years I have learned quite a lot about what popular opinion and standard formatting of this has been around the internet.
.. I decided to go with the flow and started following the largely considered correct way to name individual episodes. I haven't had any issues with metadata since. THIS is the preferred way to name individual episodes for TV. If you wanted to name season 1 episode 12 it would be typed as S01E12 with S indicating season number and E indicating episode number.
As someone who works professionally at a post production facility, typing up labels and naming files for assets of episodic shows is a very frequent task. At the facility I currently work at, as well as places I've worked in the past, the general convention is to label any given episode in a series with:
1. The name of the series
2. Season number
3. Episode (or production*) number
4. Episode title (if one exists)
It's also pretty common that a season number and episode number will be consolidated into one single identifier. For example, I might use ""307"" to refer to season 3, episode 7. Regardless, I could not help but laugh out loud that there are people with that much OCD that they are motivated to write an e-mail asking you to change the way you guys identify episodes on Spoilerin'Time. Keep up the good work, guys!
Hi there, Brian, Tom and Bryce!
Just wanted to say that last night's show was great and the explanation you made about the Televisa/Cablevisión vs Roku deal was the best I have seen or read so far.
Here in Mexico, Televisa has kind of a bad rep, since they are sort of the official spokes-channel of the Government and they pretty much own most over the air TV channels. The court case agains Roku was seen as a last ditch effort for Televisa, since they have been struggling to capture young audiences with their digital content offerings, however that's just a reflection of the general dislike with them, since Blim (their version of Netflix) actually owns about 17% of the online streaming services, which is actually quite good if we compare with TV Streaming services from other TV Channels even in the US.
So far, the "banning" of Roku is limited. Only Office Depot and Radio Shack (yes, we still have those around) stopped selling Roku Devices. You can still get it pretty much everywhere else, from Amazon to Bestbuy to Mercado Libre to the corner electronics store. The court case continues and the focus is in stopping piracy, not the device, and as you mentioned, that content is available on the test channels.
Once again, great job on the show, and I was particularly glad to see this topic correctly commented by an impartial observer. Makes me proud of being a patreon. Way to go!
Best regards! Keep up the awesome work!
Hey guys, I watched last week’s episode and I completely disagree with you about NBC’s launch of their soccer product that charges $50 per season to watch the games that aren’t on TV.
The way I see it, it’s a move by NBC Sports to try to stem the flow of people to cord cutting than it is their offering of a new product.
In order to have access to all of the games from the Premier League, NBC’s new paid product now forces soccer fans to continue to pay for a TV subscription plus paying $50 for the streaming service to watch the games not on TV.
There were two alternatives last season for cord cutters where you could stream every single Premier League game in the US with a subscription to PlayStation Vue or DIRECTV NOW. But with the launch of NBC’s new product, that access to all of the games has been taken away for next season. Cord cutters can still stream the games that are on TV, but they have to pay the $50 extra to NBC to get the games that aren’t televised.
NBC Sports screwed up on the launch of this service. Many soccer fans would have gladly paid to be able to access all of the matches without requiring a TV subscription. As it is now, NBC has delivered a new product that doesn’t satisfy the cord cutters nor the TV subscribers.
Keep up the great work on the show!
The strange experiments of networks to lure cord-cutters. Plus, why Roku just got banned in Mexico.
CordKillers: Ep. 177 - It’s Not That We Don’t Love You
Recorded: July 3 2017
- AMC wants to charge you an extra $5 a month to watch its shows without commercials
- AMC Premiere for Comcast Pay TV subscribers
- $5 a month ad-free AMC shows on AMC app while logged in with Comcast ID
- Has more deleted scenes and may have originals.
- NBCUniversal will stream Premier League soccer games, no cable subscription required
- NBC offering $50 Premiere league pass, no cable sub necessary
130 live games in US as well as studio shows
- Games shown on NBC broadcast and cable will not be available
How to Watch
- Roku banned in Mexico over piracy concerns
- Roku has been banned in Mexico
- Televisa-owned Cablevision sued Roku because users were hacking it to watch pirated TV
- Cablevision’s complaint: “We would also like Roku Inc to better supervise the use of its software so that it’s not used inappropriately.”
- Roku says it’s not enabling the channels distributing pirated content on its platforms, and is taking them down when found.
- Non-certified channels that are added to Roku through a system the company had set up with the intention of allowing developers to test channels without publicizing them to the entire Roku audience. These channels are not available in the Roku Channel Store
- Roku plans to fight the decision.
- Movie database site that combines Rotten Tomatoes, IMDb, Letterboxd and Metacritic scores, with Netflix and Amazon Prime availability (Updated to include more Reddit suggested features) [OC]
What to Watch
- Watch the trailer for Rick and Morty season 3, streaming from July 30th
- Netflix is going to make a two-hour episode to wrap up the story of Sense8 to be released next year.
- The first episode of Forces of Destiny is out on the Disney YouTube channel. It features Rey on Jakku with BB8.
- Netpicks for July 2017
What We're Watching
- Brian: Justified, Okja, Preacher part 2 premiere, Robocop
- Tom: Justified, Spider-Man: Homecoming, Doctor Who, Okja, Preacher
- On the Lookout: Beyond
- Tablo easily turns Android TV boxes into standalone DVRs
- The Tablo USB dual-tuner dongle is available for $70. The device plugs into an antenna and an Android TV box like the Shield TV to create a DVR. The guide data is free for the first six months and after that costs $4 a month or $40 a year.
- Twitter to stream live coverage of Wimbledon and Comic-Con
- Twitter will broadcast the opening preview night from San Diego Comic-Con in partnership with IGN. Twitter is also streaming Wimbledon coverage like interviews and highlight reels, but no live matches this year.
- Streaming service Boomerang is now available on Apple TV. It also added its first original series, Dorothy and the Wizard of Oz.
- You only have to log into NBC's app once across Apple devices
- NBC’s iOS app now works with Apple’s single sign-on in addition to its Apple TV app. Users only have to sing in once to be signed in across all devices linked to their Apple ID.
- Netflix is bringing Dolby Atmos surround sound to its original content starting with Okja
- Netflix announced Okja is being presented in Dolby’s High Dynamic Range with Dolby Atmos sound. Some LG TVs as well as the Xbox One and Xbox One S can stream Atmos content. Netflix original movies, Blame! Death Note and Bright will all be released in Atmos as well.
- Seeso Is Selling Two of Its Shows to AT&T-Backed VRV, May Be Preparing to Shut Down
- Seeso has sold two of its original programs, My Brother, My Brother and Me and Harmonquest; to Otter Media, which runs streaming service aggregate VRV. The shows will appear on VRV, but details of where/what plans the shows will appear on have not been confirmed. Decider's sources said that other original Seeso programs could be up for sale.
Dispatches from the Front
The idea of “interactive TV” has been floating around for some time and really only becomes a legit possibility with streaming or internet-provided content. Only recently has cable TV had the ability to achieve this but also via an internet link to process viewer input. But streaming makes the most sense I believe.
I can certainly see this progressing to the point you’re watching a show or movie and are able to actively interact with the characters on screen especially by voice. We tell our Apple TVs, Amazon Fire TVs, Siri, Alexa etc. what we want now so why couldn’t we just yell “Look to the left!” or “Watch out behind you!” or “Turn right” at key points in a show (possibly whenever an interaction icon appeared on screen). The possible increased level of engagement with the audience might help keep viewers watching more so than otherwise. So these first baby steps do make sense if it hopes to catch on. And why not start with the kids? Get them comfortable with the simple versions now so that as they grow, and the tech develops, they grow right along. There’s also less of a need to take it to big screens now since these shows are being watched close-up by the kids and they can just press their screens to direct the action.
The other question on this is where does the line between interactive “show” and video game get drawn? If we just start directing all the action, or most of it, aren’t we just playing a fancy video game with great, albeit realistic, graphics? Video game graphics have also improved tremendously as have the non-controller methods of interaction such as motion and voice.
Then lets mix in VR and AR and 360 (or 180) and, and, and …. Ahh hell, just beam me on to the holodeck already. Isn’t that where we all want to go anyway?
Just one quick thought on the Netflix Interactive stories. I agree with you that traditional video doesn’t make for a compelling interactive viewing experience, HOWEVER – what if you apply interactive storytelling to the VR experience? What if Netflix takes their learnings from this flat/2D viewing experience, and commissions 360 degree storytellers to make a series of short films with multiple overlapping storylines where the viewer drives the plot forward through there interactions?
Does this make you more or less interested?
I want to offer a suggestion as to what might be the potential service that could dethrone Netflix. As I was listening to your discussion one thing that kept being mentioned as a reason for the success for some of the current streaming services was their access to Disney content. So what happens if Disney - ABC pulls all their content from existing services and instead launches it exclusively on their own product?
And to make this even a more intriguing proposition, this service could also include new original content focused around some of their most popular properties such as Marvel and Star Wars. Just imagine if they took a similar approach that they have used for Daredevil and applied it to the Star Wars Universe. I could see a lot of people signing up for this new service just for that prospect alone.
For me, a service that included the entire range of the Disney Vault, access to ABC properties like Modern Family and Once Upon a Time, plus all of the ESPN sports programming would be an absolute must buy. Without a doubt it would have something that would be of interest to every member of my household.
I hope this adds to the conversation. Love the show! Keep up with the good work!
Been wanting to see some of the YouTube Red content, Rhett and Link and Game Lab at least, and kids watch YouTube a lot, as well as our typical family TV time is watching the YouTube channels we follow.
So, I bite the bullet for the free YouTube Red trial, and I want to make it a family plan sorta deal ... and you can't.
There's YouTube Red, which gives you Play Music, but no Family option ... but you can get Play Music Family, which gives you YouTube Red.
Because ... [reasons].
Short term solution, get all accounts on free trial and then cancel where needed and sign up for the Family Play plan in three months. I was hoping for a 'pay the difference' plan, but, doesn't look like that's an option.
I did email support, and got a quick reply which actually answered the question first go, so that's a plus!
I'm a big fan of both Cord Killers and Spoilerin' Time -- but I'm curious as to why you guys say "Episode X Season X", especially during Spoilerin' Time? It is widely accepted that the most standard way to reference these is by "Season X Episode X" -- in fact, that is how you write them in the podcast descriptions/notes (e.g. Leftovers 305, Justified 606, etc.), and I know you both have commented that this is how you are supposed to reference episodes in digital libraries and torrents, etc. (S03E05, etc.). It's like version numbers in software: Major.Minor.Revision.
Maybe it's not a big deal... but honestly it takes me a few extra CPU cycles in my brain to take what you say and then translate it into, "oh yeah, he means Season 3 Episode 5".