Cordkillers 382 - Boba Curious (w/ Chris Mancini)
Did Netflix force a bot to write a script and what happens when real bots DO factor into screenwriting? Plus, your thoughts on spoilers in a tweet and a real Wheel of Time trailer. All that and more on Cordkillers! With special guest Chris Mancini ( https://www.whitecatentertainment.com/ ).
This week on It's Spoilerin' Time: What We Do in the Shadows (310), Squid Game (102), Miami Vice (102)
Next week: Next week: Time Bandits, Squid Game (103), Miami Vice (106/107, "One Eyed Jack")
CordKillers: 382 - Boba Curious
Recorded: November 1 2021
Guest: Chris Mancini
Intro Video
Tiger King 2
Primary Target
Netflix released a horror movie written by a bot and it's spectacular
The First Horror Movie Written Entirely By Bots
OpenAI’s GPT-3 Now Writing Screenplay For A Short Film With A Plot Twist
- Mr. Puzzles wants you to be less alive is a horror movie short written entirely by bots and released by Netflix. Or is it....
- The bot was trained by Keaton Patti on more than 400,000 hours of horror movies.
- The movie is certainly executed tongue in cheek. Computer animation with what sounds like text to speech for the actor lines though the stage directions are ready by something that sounds like Patton Oswald.
- A few gems from the script:
- "Do Not kill me please. I have several families. I am a coworker."
- "I don't know houses. I am a virgin. My Dad will pay you to not kill me. My Mom might not."
- Jennifer is sprayed with red coworker juice.
- Except this is a thing Patti does and sometimes without bots. So we could spend a lot of time trying to figure out if this was made by bots for real or not. Are there even 400,000 hours of horror movies? Or did it watch repeats? Honestly I don't know if it matters for two reasons
- 1.) It's hilarious and either it's a hilarious bot created thing ior its an even more impressive human-created hilarity that sounds like bots
- 2.) and even more important to my way of thinking -- Tech like GPT-3 can already do this much better. Solicotrs, an Ai short film written by GPT-3, came out in 2020. Another one called Date Night was posted in April.
- So we can get sidelined trying to decide if Netflix is lying when it writes "We worked with Keaton Patti to make a bot watch over 400,000 hours of horror movies a" OR we can talk about what it will be like when we get the first screenplay actually written by machine learning that is good and we like!
How to Watch
Apple And Comcast Set Two-Way Streaming Distribution Deal
Peacock Is “Way Ahead Of Where We Expected To Be”, NBCUniversal Chief Jeff Shell Says – But No New User Stats Released
Comcast Hints at Holding on to Hulu; Peacock Numbers Moving in ‘Right Direction’
- Comcast announced earnings which were largely positive thanks to increasing broadband subscribers and money from the Tokyo Olympics advertising.
- But Comcast's crown jewel in cord cutting is Peacock.
- Streamning-wise Comcast announced a deal to offer Apple TV+ on its Comcast and Sky TVs, as well as its Xfinity X1 and Flex offerings while bringing the Xfinity Stream and Sky Go apps to Apple TV.
- NBC Universal CEO Jeff Shell said Peacock is “way ahead of where we expected to be.” We don't know what that is because they didn't tell us any numbers.
- NBC disaster drama La Brea was the most-viewed original on Peacock during the quarter.
- Unlike the past 5 quarters Comcast did not release any numbers around peacock in its latest earnings report.
- Last July they had 20 million monthly active users and projected 30-35 by 2024.
- But Shell did use lots of very cool sounding words some of which involved words you also use when using numbers. “Everything on Peacock is heading in the right direction. There’s really nothing, from a trajectory perspective, that’s any different than it was last quarter or the quarter before. All metrics are pointed up. Our usage continues to be great, our mix of users continues to be great. We added a few million more subs, more monthly active users.”
- He added -- helpfully?-- “We’ve been a business for just over a year and we’re already more than a third of what Hulu is now, which is a service that’s more than a decade in the making.” Hulu reported 42.8 million in July when Peacock was already more than a third....
- Speaking of Hulu, Comcast still owns 33% as a now silent partner with Disney. They're expected to sell that chunk as early as January 2024 under their existing deal. Some rumors existed that NBC would want to jump out early but Comcast CEO Mike Kavanaugh said “I like the deal we have…It’ll be fine if we stay until the end because I expect the value to keep increasing.”
What to Watch
The Book of Boba Fett trailer reveals bounty hunter's Disney Plus show
- Disney Plus released a trailer for the Book of Boba Fett arriving on Disney Plus December 29th. It appears Boba Fett is starting a crime coop?
Netflix released a trailer for season 2 of The Witcher. It debuts December 17.
Buzz Lightyear Gets an Origin Story With Chris Evans in Pixar’s ‘Lightyear’ Trailer
- Pixar released a trailer for Lightyear, an animated movie telling the story of the "real life" Buzz Lightyear upon which the. Toy is based. The "real" Lightyear is voiced by Chris Evans. Lightyear comes to theaters June 17, 2022.
Dune: Part Two is officially happening to adapt the other half of the book
- For those of you upset that Dune was called Dune Part One, good news. Warner Brothers and Legendary have officially approved Dune Part Two, expected to hit theaters in October 2023.
And a full trailer for Cowboy Bebop is out on Netflix. The live action remake of the classic anime arrives November 19.
Netflix's production of the Three-Body Problem books added 12 cast members many from Watchmen and Game of Thrones fame.
‘Hocus Pocus’ Disney Plus Sequel Adds Eleven New Cast Members, Including Tony Hale, Hannah Waddingham and Sam Richardson
- Disney is making a sequel to Hocus Pocus, called Hocus Pocus 2 which has cast Bette Midler, Sarah Jessica Parker and Kathy Najimy in returning roles and added Hanna Waddingham from Ted lasso and Sam Richardson from Veep among others.
Jon Hamm will voice a detective in an animated series for Fox called Grimsburg coming in 2023.
The Wheel of Time trailer wheels in 360 degrees of fantasy fun
- Amazon released a trailer for its Wheel of Time series based on the books by Robert Jordan. The first three episodes arrive November 19.
HBO renewed Succession for a fourth season.
NBC News Has Ambitious Streaming Plans For Election Night
- NBC is testing election coverage on NBC News Now this week during the off-off-year US sections that are mostly governor's races.
Bill Murray Says He’s Appearing in ‘Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania’
- Bill Murray told a German publication “You know, recently I made a Marvel movie, I probably won’t tell you, but never mind." He seemed to imply that the director of Bring it On convinced him to join, and that's Peyton Reed who is directing Ant Man and the Wasp: Quantumania, so....
Eyes On
Chris: Fear Street 1994, Trick or Treat, Midnight Mass
Brian: Video Game Historian , American Crime Story
Tom: My Name
On the Lookout: Inside Job
Front Lines
Roku Is Making It Easier for Advertisers to Figure Out Which Shows You're Watching
- Roku announced publishers will be able to measure channel content across devices, including streaming video, static web pages and mobile apps, across computer, mobile and TV streaming devices" through Nielsen Digital Content Ratings (DCR). Nielsen's Advanced Video Advertising business, which Roku absorbed in March, allows publishers to better target viewers through ad-supported linear channels. Roku has 55.1 million active accounts and reported $532 million in revenue, including advertising, in Q2.
Netflix To Bid On New Jersey’s Fort Monmouth Army Base For New Studio
- Netflix opened a studio in Brooklyn last month and Deadline reports it is bidding on a site at the Fort Monmouth, New Jersey military base that closed in 2011. Netflix wants to transform the site into a state-of-the-art production facility.
‘Squid Game’ Creator Hits Back at LeBron James’ Criticism of Show Ending With ‘Space Jam 2’ Diss
- In a post-game conversation earlier this month, basketball stars Anthony Davis and Lebron James were recorded discussing Squid Game. James said he liked the show but “I didn’t like the ending though. What are you doing?” So The Guardian asked Squid Game creator Hwang Dong-hyuk about the exchange to which he replied "Have you seen Space Jam 2?" He added that if James has a “Squid Game” ending “that would satisfy him, maybe he could make his own sequel. I’ll check it out and maybe send him a message saying, ‘I liked your whole show, except the ending.’” James tweeted the link to the interview and wrote “This can’t be real right??!! I hope not,” followed by 10 laughing emoji.
Amazon’s new TVs will soon support Apple AirPlay 2 and HomeKit
- Amazon is selling TVs under its own Omni brand name. Those TVs will be getting AirPlay 2 and HomeKit support, something standalone Amazon Fire TV devices don't have.
TikTok Now Available on Amazon Fire TV in the U.S., Canada Under Exclusive Deal
- And TikTok announced that it has launched an app on FireTVs in Canada and the US. It was already available on Fire TV's in Germany, France and the UK. No word on how long Amazon will have an exclusive on the set-top box version of TikTok.
Fox Nation Made Available on YouTube TV
- Fox News' subscription-based streaming service Fox Nation is now available as an add-on for YouTube TV for $5,.99 a month. The service features extended content from the Fox News channel as well as documentaries, true crime series and movies.
Dispatches from the Front
So, wait, Brian, what are you saying? "It's your responsibility" to not be spoiled. So people just need to quit Twitter altogether? Because that's the only way I can see your opinion here working. And hey, I think the world probably would be a better place if everyone quit Twitter, but that doesn't seem like a realistic take in this situation.
The movie wasn't even out. No one could have reasonably expected this news. Your analogies to premier night for game of thrones episodes completely miss the mark. And no, Bryce, just because someone else might have spoiled this doesn't let this guy off the hook.
This was a spoiler, plain and simple. The reporter doesn't need to be crucified for this, but going forward I think the media should learn from this and not do it.
-Chris B
P. S. I don't even get angry about spoilers! Man what a weird case to put us all on opposite sides of an issue.
The Tweet was a spoiler; it could have simply included a spoiler warning and a link for those interested.
-Chris
Brian, Tom, Bryce and possible guest,
While Marvel did not invent the post credit scene, the frequent use of them is a relatively new concept. Your conversation on last week's episode illustrated that we are still figuring out the conventions around them.
For instance Casablanca does not have a post credit scene where we see Ingrid Bergman's plane land and she is greeted by a resurrected Orson Welles from Citizen Kane.
There are some post credit scenes that are just silly such as the Avengers eating at a Shawarma restaurant after saving the world.
However, other post credit scenes continue the story or are even from a future movie such as the post credit scene from Ant-Man, which is a scene from Captain America: Civil War. This type of post credit scene may contain spoilers.
The casting itself in a post credit scene could be a spoiler. For instance if we knew that Samuel L. Jackson was cast in the post credit scene of Ironman. People may have speculated that he had been casted as Nick Fury and that this movie was beginning to set up a future Avengers movie. For that reason I don't believe Samuel L. Jackson's casting in Ironman had been announced by the studio.
So let's use the Matt Donnelly incident as a precedent. If the studio doesn't announce the casting of someone in a post credit scene, then a reporter probably shouldn't report or even tweet it.
- Bill
Hello, long-time supporter, first-time writer.
If the person from Variety had tweeted "...and Josh Brolin was great reprising his role of Thanos", would that not be a spoiler? If the actor and character were not revealed in the normal casting news (production, agent announcements, etc...) then obviously Disney meant to keep it a secret from the general audience. Just because it was a character not well known to most people doesn't make it fair game.
Anyway, please don't refer to me as your boss. I don't want to be a boss. Maybe your backer?
- Hokey
Hey guys,
I know my opinion should only matter a little bit but I'm finding the Miami Vice rewatch enjoyable especially since I'm not watching along. I don't care for the show, never did, but your discussion was fantastic and brought me back to me ignoring that as a 13 year old. This might be the first "Spoilerin' Time" I've listened to that I haven't watched so keep it up!
And thanks for the "After Talk" talk about Squid Games because I had no idea what it was about and no desire. Those brief words made me realize I was on the right path not watching it.
Finally, I was surprised you brought up the Rust situation and really liked the candid discussion, especially Brian. I heard about the shirt ... and hearing Brian say he wished we could get along for such a tragedy was refreshing. Glad I'm not on social media to hear about that vitriol.
Keep it all up.
Your boss,
- Norm
P.S. That F1 Race and new soccer team in Austin sound like a nightmare! Probably lots of fun but a traffic nightmare nonetheless. Glad I got out of Austin 6 years ago when I did.
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